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Marycat2021's avatar

Trump had his first wife and the mother of 3 of his children buried on one of his golf courses. What does this tell you about him?

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Theodora30's avatar

He wanted a tax break on his golf course, naturally. Last I saw the grave was still overgrown with weeds. Vance isn’t the only weird one.

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Marycat2021's avatar

That's beyond weird. It's horrible. What was his reason for burying her there, as opposed to a cemetery in a family plot? Weird doesn't begin to describe it.

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Theodora30's avatar

In New Jersey if you have a burial on your property it qualifies as a cemetery and lowers your property taxes. I agree it’s horrible, especially since her kids whom she raised have gone along with it. They are all weird and horrible.

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Marycat2021's avatar

Horrible. And obvious that Trump has raised his offspring to be just like him.

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Theodora30's avatar

As Mary Trump pointed out in her book this disaster could have been prevented if the NYC area media had treated Trump like the criminal he was instead of just an entertaining colorful playboy. That would have forced law enforcement to hold Trump a well as his kids to account. The Village Voice’s Wayne Barret (whom Lucian worked with there) covered Trump’s corruption for decades until his death in 2016 but the rest of the media,except for the Philly Inquirer’s David Cay Johnston, couldn’t be bothered.

People who think Ivanka is squeaky clean need to read this article about Manhattan DA Cy Vance (a Democrat) being given her and Don Jr’s emails about the blatant lies they were telling potential buyers of Trump SoHo units. They openly discussed how they were inflating both the price and number of units they had sold so they could convince potential buyers that owning a unit would be a good investment. Vance’s response was the same one he had when he was given solid proof that Harvey Weinstein was a rapist — do nothing and get nice fat donations later from the people he let slide. Most of the media chose to ignore that story, too.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-ivanka-trump-and-donald-trump-jr-avoided-a-criminal-indictment

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Marycat2021's avatar

Yes, but we all know this. However, white collar crimes are rarely prosecuted especially when the perp and his family are powerful enough to make or break one's career.

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belf's avatar

A superb analysis. Thank you. As you say: they are not going without a fight. As long as this impulse/proclivity arises in men/people, how do women - "disinclined" men - society at large cope?

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Ric Steinberger's avatar

A good 40 - 45% of US voters want Trump to become the first American führer. Trump - as the leader of his cult of personality - is automatically seen as having divine attributes even if his earthly behavior is completely immoral.

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dale coberly's avatar

Waldman gives a good and necessary summary. But I think I should point out that a lot of women vote for Trump, and my own observation is that a lot of women seem to like that sort of masculinity. Personally, it terrifies me that (more than) 40% of Americans will vote for Trump...who might or might not have been a good man to have to clean the bears out of the cave and fight off other men who wanted a "wife," but his intelligence and decency are at such a low level that I would not want to be in the same room with him. He is too stupid to run the country, and too dangerous to be allowed anywere near the power of the Presidency. But much the same could be said about the majority of the Court, and the Republicans in Congress. Trump is a clear and present danger, but we apparently will still have the danger when he is not elected or even gone entirely.

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Ben Holstrom's avatar

Take a look at Trump's mugshot. Look deeply into his eyes. See his soul... . I seen an evil man with a very dark Evil Soul. A man with a black-hearted shell of a with no humanness. A man who is faithful two two unspeakable human atrocity

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Theodora30's avatar

I just noticed the headline to the article below this one, “What If America's Business Bigwigs Aren't That Bright? As they turn to Donald Trump we have to ask”

That made me think about Rachel Maddow’s opening to her show last night about Trump’s largest donor, Tim Mellon. Mellon is also a big donor to RFK Jr. The man is so bonkers that Maddow couldn’t stop laughing when describing his bizarre claims about the findings of a dive to find Amelia Earhart’s plane he had funded. The story is so wild I can’t begin to describe it but it’s well worth watching the beginning of her show, especially if you need a laugh. It’s certainly an example of a bigwig who isn’t bright and is also delusional. It’s long past time these really weird but scarily powerful people were held up to ridicule.

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Peter's avatar

The MAGA definition of a manly man is really nothing more than elevation of the playground bully. Trump is a weak, paranoid, narcissistic loser who projects manliness because of insults, orange makeup, lifts, diapers and a girdle. The MAGAs just love him because he gives them license to bully those who they hate.

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Shari's avatar

Well done, Mark Kelly's mom! How to kick down barriers for all of us, and how to raise boys that become the kind of men who respect women like you.

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paintgreennyc's avatar

Fully agree. It’s toxic, and hearing that enrages them, and they get ultra toxic. Not to make changes for their ‘weirdness’. It wouldn’t be surprising if they swift-boat Kelly, but this time swift-spaceship. But that doesn’t mean they win. This time, we need to send it swiftly back! Taylor?

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