Don't give the MAGA masses too much credit for paying enough attention. Sure Loomer and Bannon see what's happening, but the cultists aren't that bright. They won't see that Trump's full attention (after his own bank accounts) is on enriching Mush and the billionaires at their expense until the services and programs they depend on to live disappear. And even then they will blame immigrants, gays, trans kids, Democrats and the Deep State, not the greedy assholes that have been robbing them blind since Ronnie Raygun.
Ramaswamy's comment was so powerful because it called out MAGA for what it is: a coalition of the mediocre white men who've held America back since the founding. They can't work as hard as immigrants--indeed, they are the reason America instituted slavery--and they wouldn't if they could because they don't believe they should have to.
Brilliant. Thank you for so succinctly articulating what I know in my own and heart to be true. Also it’s astonishing (well maybe not) that Trumpers admonish Musk and never ever ever hold Trump’s feet to the fire🔥
Nailed it. Just like the tech bros' predecessor Anglo robber barons who built the railroads and owned the banks in the nineteenth century. They too thought their genes entitled them to plunder the country and run it.
How'd Americans tame that bunch? Unions were a piece of it. What else?
Great article. I disagree with Vivek that culturally we care more about the jock in HS because afterward we love our CEOs and entrepreneurs, especially in the tech space. The formula of success of these bros, getting a perfect SAT/ACT score, getting to an Ivy league, maybe even dropping out has become just as much a part of our American Dream culture in the last 25 years than the jock stereotype. College admissions to ensure that path has made admissions a zero sum game. The cost has made it about the calculation of ROI instead of ensuring we have an educated populace. Liberal arts programs are hemorrhaging students because so many want to go into STEM. We’ve made tech bros Gods and worshipped them to say they are so smart that they can do no wrong.
I had a good friend that died 8 years ago that would get into this diatribe with my husband who is a Chemical engineer. My friend was a computer engineer. He said that it was a joke that they labeled him an “engineer” as he said that the math and even thinking that was taught in computer science was not engineering. There was no body that accredited it and the way development occurs, with releasing things to the public with bugs he said he’d never want to fly a plane built by computer engineers. He told us of so many instances of things going wrong when the hubris of computer scientists takes over without the tension that exists in fields where you have science and engineers working together. That conversation lives rent free in my brain. Musk has a degree in physics and economics. Not engineering. Vivek has a degree in Biology. Not engineering. Maybe it’s deeper than just cheap labor but also engineers from countries culturally that will not question hierarchy. And with that, dismiss in their CEO hubris, the “over complication” that engineers would bring to the table or not create the intellectual tension needed to innovate responsibly. Jobs had Wozniak. Musk has Musk. Remember the Teslas that caught fire and people died?
Good point. TFG only cares about money and getting out of jail. The more I think about it, he’s probably sucking up to Musk to get him to pay off that $450 million dollar judgement.
The title may give some cold comfort to the Dems. But unless Mr. Waldman can show that such information has the slightest impact on the Maga Masses or even simply gets through to them, I would recommend a less bait and switch title.
i hope your comment will hit the right note with the MAGA masses'
But I don't think they will read that far. They will perfectly understand the difference between a few high tech immigrants, and the "other" huge numbers of tradtiionally despised subnhumans who are taking their and, you know, commiting crimes.
Don't give the MAGA masses too much credit for paying enough attention. Sure Loomer and Bannon see what's happening, but the cultists aren't that bright. They won't see that Trump's full attention (after his own bank accounts) is on enriching Mush and the billionaires at their expense until the services and programs they depend on to live disappear. And even then they will blame immigrants, gays, trans kids, Democrats and the Deep State, not the greedy assholes that have been robbing them blind since Ronnie Raygun.
MAGA will get "bread and circus" without the bread, and somehow will believe that it's "Democrat evil" keeping the price of eggs and petrol too high.
Ramaswamy's comment was so powerful because it called out MAGA for what it is: a coalition of the mediocre white men who've held America back since the founding. They can't work as hard as immigrants--indeed, they are the reason America instituted slavery--and they wouldn't if they could because they don't believe they should have to.
Brilliant. Thank you for so succinctly articulating what I know in my own and heart to be true. Also it’s astonishing (well maybe not) that Trumpers admonish Musk and never ever ever hold Trump’s feet to the fire🔥
Indentured servitude. I guess that sounds a lot nicer than slavery.
Yes. Many syllables and that this is bad is not thought in school. Language matters.
Word version of a 2-panel cartoon I saw over the weekend about the H-1B circular firing squad:
Huge intimidating tech bro: Americans are too uneducated to hire!
Small American: Educate me.
Huge intimidating tech bro: Fuck you.
(Can't find it right now so can't cite source; sorry.)
Nailed it. Just like the tech bros' predecessor Anglo robber barons who built the railroads and owned the banks in the nineteenth century. They too thought their genes entitled them to plunder the country and run it.
How'd Americans tame that bunch? Unions were a piece of it. What else?
Great article. I disagree with Vivek that culturally we care more about the jock in HS because afterward we love our CEOs and entrepreneurs, especially in the tech space. The formula of success of these bros, getting a perfect SAT/ACT score, getting to an Ivy league, maybe even dropping out has become just as much a part of our American Dream culture in the last 25 years than the jock stereotype. College admissions to ensure that path has made admissions a zero sum game. The cost has made it about the calculation of ROI instead of ensuring we have an educated populace. Liberal arts programs are hemorrhaging students because so many want to go into STEM. We’ve made tech bros Gods and worshipped them to say they are so smart that they can do no wrong.
I had a good friend that died 8 years ago that would get into this diatribe with my husband who is a Chemical engineer. My friend was a computer engineer. He said that it was a joke that they labeled him an “engineer” as he said that the math and even thinking that was taught in computer science was not engineering. There was no body that accredited it and the way development occurs, with releasing things to the public with bugs he said he’d never want to fly a plane built by computer engineers. He told us of so many instances of things going wrong when the hubris of computer scientists takes over without the tension that exists in fields where you have science and engineers working together. That conversation lives rent free in my brain. Musk has a degree in physics and economics. Not engineering. Vivek has a degree in Biology. Not engineering. Maybe it’s deeper than just cheap labor but also engineers from countries culturally that will not question hierarchy. And with that, dismiss in their CEO hubris, the “over complication” that engineers would bring to the table or not create the intellectual tension needed to innovate responsibly. Jobs had Wozniak. Musk has Musk. Remember the Teslas that caught fire and people died?
The MAGAs are the uninformed voters. They are clueless. And wouldn’t believe anything bad about their Orange god anyway.
What I do find interesting is Bannon, beating the drum all day every day, about Musk’s and Viveks plans. Do the Magas listen to him?
Not if he doesn’t get Trump as a mouthpiece. And he has probably outlived his usefulness to Trump.
Good point. TFG only cares about money and getting out of jail. The more I think about it, he’s probably sucking up to Musk to get him to pay off that $450 million dollar judgement.
In exchange for policies that favor Musk.
And who’s says politicians aren’t for sale 😡
The title may give some cold comfort to the Dems. But unless Mr. Waldman can show that such information has the slightest impact on the Maga Masses or even simply gets through to them, I would recommend a less bait and switch title.
waldman
i hope your comment will hit the right note with the MAGA masses'
But I don't think they will read that far. They will perfectly understand the difference between a few high tech immigrants, and the "other" huge numbers of tradtiionally despised subnhumans who are taking their and, you know, commiting crimes.