Hopefully group C. The ones that say let Israel do it alone. You know what we’re looking forward too if we get involved any more than we already are….. anyone remember Iran in the 70’s? Hijackings. Bombings. That’ll be back in spades I’m sure.
Paul, fantastic article, but I think I may disagree with you. I don’t think the Hawk morons will win because at the end of the day Donald Trump is going to do whatever Vladimir Putin would want him to do. There is no way that Vladimir Putin would want the United States to be dropping bombs on Iran. So, my best educated guess is that Vladimir Putin will triumph over the morons, and Donald Trump will not be dropping any buster bunking bombs on Iran.
Without advocating for US involvement, I do want to point out that Iran in 2025 is not really analogous to Iraq in 2001. There is in fact a well-documented decades-long history of Iran striving to achieve nuclear capability, and an equally long record of both diplomatic efforts (by both Democratic and Republican administrations) and clandestine sabotage operations (by Israel) that has so far held that outcome at bay.
Pres. Obama famously negotiated the JCPOA to prevent Iran from going nuclear. The felon withdrew from that agreement in his first term, calling it a bad deal, then lamented the lack of exactly such a deal not long after. We probably wouldn't be in the current situation if the JCPOA had remained in place.
Is Iraq currently as close to a bomb as the American and Israeli regimes claim? No idea. Is American involvement in Israel's current campaign a good idea? Probably not. But to claim, as some currently do, that Iran poses little to no threat, and that talk of its nuclear ambitions are just a ruse of some kind (a la Iraqi yellowcake/WMD), runs completely counter to the historical record. It doesn't help the conversation to pretend otherwise. Mr. Waldman, I'm sure you know all this as well and would appreciate you making it more clear.
Lawrence O’Donnell needs to have you on as a guest tonight. He will set up the segment and you can finish the case.
“though it may be hard for Rubio to express an opinion with his tongue lodged so firmly in the eyelets of Trump’s wingtips”
Wonderful, Paul!
Hopefully group C. The ones that say let Israel do it alone. You know what we’re looking forward too if we get involved any more than we already are….. anyone remember Iran in the 70’s? Hijackings. Bombings. That’ll be back in spades I’m sure.
Paul, fantastic article, but I think I may disagree with you. I don’t think the Hawk morons will win because at the end of the day Donald Trump is going to do whatever Vladimir Putin would want him to do. There is no way that Vladimir Putin would want the United States to be dropping bombs on Iran. So, my best educated guess is that Vladimir Putin will triumph over the morons, and Donald Trump will not be dropping any buster bunking bombs on Iran.
Our national epitaph will be the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
The Trump Administration doesn’t have to provide fake analysis since they’ve reduced Republicans to going with Trump’s gut feelings. Savings!
Without advocating for US involvement, I do want to point out that Iran in 2025 is not really analogous to Iraq in 2001. There is in fact a well-documented decades-long history of Iran striving to achieve nuclear capability, and an equally long record of both diplomatic efforts (by both Democratic and Republican administrations) and clandestine sabotage operations (by Israel) that has so far held that outcome at bay.
Pres. Obama famously negotiated the JCPOA to prevent Iran from going nuclear. The felon withdrew from that agreement in his first term, calling it a bad deal, then lamented the lack of exactly such a deal not long after. We probably wouldn't be in the current situation if the JCPOA had remained in place.
Is Iraq currently as close to a bomb as the American and Israeli regimes claim? No idea. Is American involvement in Israel's current campaign a good idea? Probably not. But to claim, as some currently do, that Iran poses little to no threat, and that talk of its nuclear ambitions are just a ruse of some kind (a la Iraqi yellowcake/WMD), runs completely counter to the historical record. It doesn't help the conversation to pretend otherwise. Mr. Waldman, I'm sure you know all this as well and would appreciate you making it more clear.
Beautifully, and accurately, stated
All of them.